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Old Jul 04, 2009, 10:05 PM // 22:05   #1
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Default What is your HP mana and what staff u use for Discordway

Mi heros got :

Livia 45 mana 575 hp and i use a death staff (60hp , 5 mana,HSR )

Olias 35 mana 540 hp

Master 45 mana 535 hp and i use a death staff (60hp , 5 mana,HSR )

Its ok like this or is beter to use wand and focus ? tnx
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Old Jul 04, 2009, 10:38 PM // 22:38   #2
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i use a 20/20 wand and a 20/20 off hand, Death Magic. you can buy them from the guy in Vasburg armory for cheap. your heroes look to be equipped decently other than that
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Old Jul 04, 2009, 10:39 PM // 22:39   #3
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+HP mods on staves are highly wastefull as they take up the staff head and staff wrapping,leaving only the inscription which on it's own isn't too beneficial.40/40 would be the superior way to go
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Old Jul 04, 2009, 10:40 PM // 22:40   #4
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For Heroes I recommend +60 HP 20/20 staves.

Myself, I do not use Discord - Necrosis can do it as well, and go Curses and use a +60 Soul Reaping Staff or a 40/40 set.
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Old Jul 04, 2009, 11:05 PM // 23:05   #5
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I use the woe spreader on all of mine. All heroes should have +60 staves, unless they're running builds that are based on enchants, then +30/+20% enchanting staves.
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Old Jul 04, 2009, 11:09 PM // 23:09   #6
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all of mine have over 600hp.

Ideal weapon set is defensive for MM and 40/40 restoration for N/Rt for faster PWK cast/recharge.
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Old Jul 05, 2009, 01:22 AM // 01:22   #7
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all of mine have over 600hp.
It's a matter of preference. Mine all have between 575 and 600. I use minor runes on all.

Olias has a +5 +60 Death Staff (I use him for sabway and discordway and he is primarily Death on both).

MoW and Livia have a +5 +60 Soul Reaping Staves (I use them both on sabway and discordway). Since their attributes are different on both sabway and discordway the soul reaping staves fit both well and I don't have to worry about changing equipment. I sometimes put Alem's Remedy on Livia because she has a rq 9 in Restoration in my versions of both sabway and discordway.

Putting Death Staves on all of them is impractical for my purposes.

so basically, it's "use whatever you're comfortable with".
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Old Jul 05, 2009, 01:28 AM // 01:28   #8
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so few questions adding to this? what is best proffession to use for this build and what do i type in pvx wiki to get all skills needed?? thbnaks a ton (just beat all campaigns need to do something new to make money)
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Old Jul 05, 2009, 09:07 AM // 09:07   #9
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It's a matter of preference. Mine all have between 575 and 600. I use minor runes on all.

Olias has a +5 +60 Death Staff (I use him for sabway and discordway and he is primarily Death on both).

MoW and Livia have a +5 +60 Soul Reaping Staves (I use them both on sabway and discordway). Since their attributes are different on both sabway and discordway the soul reaping staves fit both well and I don't have to worry about changing equipment. I sometimes put Alem's Remedy on Livia because she has a rq 9 in Restoration in my versions of both sabway and discordway.

Putting Death Staves on all of them is impractical for my purposes.

so basically, it's "use whatever you're comfortable with".

Wrong, its whatever works best.
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Old Jul 05, 2009, 10:53 AM // 10:53   #10
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40/40 Restoration set on my Restoration Necromancer and 40/40 Death sets on my other Necros.

For my caller I run a +20 energy +30 Staff, a high energy set corresponding to the attribute I spec in from my secondary proffession (A/?), usually Inspiration or an Elemetalist attribute nowadays, and a defensive Spear & Shield set to cast Assassins Promise from in areas with alot of caster hate to exploit AI that primarily aims for casters with Wands/Staffs with interrupts.
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Old Jul 05, 2009, 05:55 PM // 17:55   #11
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I think i beter post mi builds to :

Me , N/A : OAdTYYP/HaBymUucqKmsqqBSAAA ( Soul reaping +16)

Olias ,N/Rt : OAhjUsGWIPxsMm0cyNMHnV1kLA ( Death magic + 14)

Master , N/Mo : OANDUslfSxMVBoBLCKgBE1DVVA ( Death magic +16 and Soul reaping +11)

Livia , N/Rt : OAhkUwG4hGKTMDRMGsDfidXVN5C (Death magic +16 and Soul reaping +9)
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Old Jul 05, 2009, 11:14 PM // 23:14   #12
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Infuse condition but no foul feast? wtf and you have a slot open for sols anyway...ditch sols, take foul, same energy manag + condi removal with infuse. o__O
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Old Jul 06, 2009, 07:25 AM // 07:25   #13
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40/40 Restoration set on my Restoration Necromancer and 40/40 Death sets on my other Necros.
that's the best.
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Old Jul 06, 2009, 02:17 PM // 14:17   #14
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Infuse condition but no foul feast? wtf and you have a slot open for sols anyway...ditch sols, take foul, same energy manag + condi removal with infuse. o__O
TNX all , so its beter to use foul feas on all heros and not sols ?
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Old Jul 07, 2009, 03:41 AM // 03:41   #15
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yeah necro shouldnt need energy so foul feast is better
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Old Jul 07, 2009, 11:50 AM // 11:50   #16
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All 3 of mine have the same setup.
The Woespreader [20/20 death staff +60 health +10 Energy] as a weapon, because I'm too cheap to [trade/craft] for a 40/40 set for each.
Bloodstained/Superior Death
Survivor/Major Vigor
Survivor/Minor Soul Reaping
Survivor/Vitae
Survivor/Vitae
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561 Health
40 Energy
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Old Jul 07, 2009, 02:39 PM // 14:39   #17
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I have Full Survivor Insignias, Runes of Minor Death Magic, Minor Soul Reaping, Runes of Superior Vigor, Vitae runes on the armors.

For weapons I have 40/40 Restoration sets when I use N/Rt for quicker PWK recharge mainly, 40/40 Death Magic sets for everything else. I also have Defensive Spear/Shield for high damage areas.
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Old Jul 07, 2009, 04:52 PM // 16:52   #18
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Do u use Spear/Shield on all heros ? and what do u have on them ? tnx.
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Old Jul 07, 2009, 05:07 PM // 17:07   #19
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Zealous, + 5 energy, +30hp Spear and +10 AL vs. Fire +30hp Shield, other Shield inscriptions would do fine too.

I use this set on every Necro which doesn't hold a bundle item when I find having an extra on them 60 hp helpful. I usually prefer 40/40 DM sets to this set though.
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Old Jul 07, 2009, 09:28 PM // 21:28   #20
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armor=energy OR life

staves=energy

wand+focus=speed

Pretty much boils down to that. All you have to do is choose what you want you heroes to have.

For myself I like survivors on armor with Superior Runes of their respective fields and wand+focus for high speed spamming. As many have stated necros generally don't have energy issues. Signet of Lost Souls pretty much handles that easily enough and they do love to spam that.

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